Treasurer Viar wrote a letter to the Source newspaper detailing the facts surrounding his handicapped parking ticket incident. On the face of it (as it was reported in the newspapers), the issue seemed cut and dry. But, as Paul Harvey would say, “Now, for the rest of the story.”
When you get below the surface and understand the complete details about what really happened, the ticket issued to Mr. Viar stinks of retaliation. The process by which Mr. Viar was issued this ticket raises serious ethical questions among those of us who live, work, drive and pay taxes here in Shelby Township.
We are reprinting Mr. Viar’s letter to the editor below. We encourage you to read the letter and judge for yourself whether or not this retroactive parking ticket was justified. The letter appeared in the October 10, 2011 Source newspaper.
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_____To the editor: Won’t be intimidated
WOW! Reading Treasurer Viar’s letter raises serious questions. Is this the policy of the police department, go after people a few days or weeks after something happens, or is this a selective policy used against certain people (or elected officials) in the township?
What amazed us is how Trustee Lisa Manzella immediately jumped into this discussion. In the interest of fairness we are reprinting Manzella’s response. When you read it you will likely find yourself shaking your head in bewilderment at Manzella’s attack against Mr. Viar.
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To the editor: Treasurer needs to accept responsibility
Mr. Viar’s letter to the editor in last week's edition of The Source is another example of how he can “dish it out, but he can’t take it,” as well as the entitlement he expects and demands.
It is illegal to park in a handicap parking spot if you do not display a handicap permit in the rearview mirror or on the license plate. Township vehicles do not have handicap plates. Even if you have a handicap permit, it is not an excuse; you need to have it on display to be in compliance with the law. I am certain Mr. Viar was given that information by the Secretary of State's office when, or if, he received his permit.
It is becoming commonplace for police departments to have cameras at intersections to track cars going through red lights and in some desert communities planes track speeding cars. Some communities enlist senior citizens to take pictures of the plates and dashboards of cars illegally parked in handicapped spots, and the car owner receives a ticket in the mail.
Mr. Viar knows that as an elected official he could not be reprimanded as an employee would. What would the board have done if one of the employees parked a car in a handicapped spot with no visible permit? Surely they would have been written up and this info would be part of their permanent work record, and likely get a ticket.
I have a close family member who qualifies for a handicapped permit. She has children that she has to carpool. I can assure you that if she forgot her permit, she would not park in a handicapped-accessible spot. And, if by some stretch of the imagine she did, she would, as Mr. Viar should have, apologize to the person pointing it out or to the officers who issued the ticket. An explanation of forgetting the permit is pretty easy for anyone to understand. Had Mr. Viar responded with a statement like, "I'm so sorry, I was in a hurry to get back to my office and serve the community, I inadvertently left my handicap permit in my car," this would not have become an issue.
All Mr. Viar has to do is take his ticket, and his permit, to the court to get the fine reduced.
Once again, in order to cover up his own wrongdoing, Mr. Viar chooses to blame everyone else rather than take responsibility for his own actions. Mr. Viar is a professional at slinging blame elsewhere; you can see it at every board meeting. He always fails to mention that he has served on the Police and Fire Pension Board for 12 years, yet he complains constantly that the pensions are too high. Mr. Viar, man up and take responsibility for your own actions - for the people who want to lawfully use the handicapped parking to the residents who want the facts on all the issues.
Lisa Manzella, Shelby Township
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Excuse our French, but what the hell is Lisa Manzella talking about? Dish it out but can’t take it? Unless our memory is incorrect, Mr. Viar has taken quite a number of unwarranted hits from Manzella and her recall crew over the last few months. If there is anyone who can dish it out (but can’t take it) it is Manzella. She has the audacity to complain about our blog, and yet feels she should have free reign to smear and trash anyone she pleases? Manzella is, without question, the consummate cry baby!
She claims that Mr. Viar must accept responsibility? Mr. Viar has the legal right to park in a handicapped space. How do we know? Because he has a handicapped permit. What the police did to Mr. Viar is wrong. So who should really take responsibility here?
She claims that Mr. Viar must accept responsibility? Mr. Viar has the legal right to park in a handicapped space. How do we know? Because he has a handicapped permit. What the police did to Mr. Viar is wrong. So who should really take responsibility here?
Mr. Viar took Manzella to about her letter during the October 18th Board meeting. Here is what Mr. Viar said:
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I begin by trying to clear up some questions concerning a parking ticket that I receive a few weeks ago. This ticket was issued to me, on the word of a retired police officer, who had no evidence of facts. This officer has attended two Board meetings to express his displeasure with me for explaining to Shelby taxpayers the threat posed to our township by the current unsustainable police union pensions. So we must assume that he had an axe to grind.
I was getting questions about the ticket, so I wrote a letter to the Source explaining the details of this parking ticket incident. I explained how I thought this was a highly unusual circumstance in the way the ticket was issued.
The ticket was not given to me in the traditional manner. It was written by an officer who did not see the incident, but who took the word of a retired officer and sent a ticket to me certified mail, paid for by taxpayers. I accepted this citation, contacted my attorney, and a pre-trial court hearing was held last Thursday. At no time in these proceedings did I mention the name of Lisa Manzella. My concern has been focused on the practice of issuing retroactive tickets.
However, Mrs. Manzella decided to write a scathing letter about me as a follow up to my letter. She said, in this letter ,that I had not manned up. As I said, I took this ticket to my attorney and we set up a court date.
Obviously Mrs. Manzella would like to compare my ticket to her contact with police sometime ago, so let’s do that. Mrs. Manzella ends her letter by saying residents want the facts on all issues. Here are some of the facts concerning Mrs. Manzella’s contact with the Shelby Township police.
Her response to the press after the one-car accident was “accidents happen.”
In my view, accidents of this nature, where you cross a center line of a two-lane road, roll your SUV, end up with the nose of your vehicle in a ditch at 1:00 a.m. on a Sunday morning deserves more than a flippant “accidents happen” comment.
I would like to read from a deposition taken from an officer the night of the accident:
QUESTION: You concluded she wasn’t wearing a seat belt, Mrs. Manzella?
OFFICER: That’s correct.
QUESTION: You didn’t issue a citation for not wearing a seat belt, did you?
OFFICER: No, I did not.
QUESTION: Why not?
OFFICER: I don’t know why.
Any remarks about Mrs. Manzella that I have made, either positive or negative, have been made at these meetings for residents to hear and evaluate for themselves. My comments have been remarks about her record, her actions, and her votes on issues impacting taxpayers. By contrast, over the past several months, Mrs. Manzella has chosen to use social media sites, like Facebook, to malign me and call me names that are not used in mixed company.
In trying to explain her rationale for a retroactive ticket-writing scheme, Manzella compares Shelby Township to a desert community that uses airplanes to track speeders. She says traffic cameras at intersections are being used to track speeders. She even says that some communities pay people to go around taking photos of cars to issue tickets. Is this her plan for our township?
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We find it unbelievable that Lisa Manzella wants to engage in a public debate about tickets. As mentioned by Treasurer Viar at the October 18, 2011 Board meeting, Manzella did not receive a ticket for her one-car accident in 2005? She could have, but did not. Manzella confirmed that she did not receive a ticket in the October 13, 2005 story in the Macomb Daily (see graphic at right).
Mr. Viar pointed out that a police office who was on the scene of the accident that night, was asked (under oath) why Manzella did not receive a seat belt ticket. His response: “I don’t know why.”
Think about it. If you are pulled over and are not wearing a seat belt, you will probably get a ticket. If a politician, like Lisa Manzella, can get out of receiving a ticket, why can’t ordinary taxpayers?
Just like Manzella, we too have close friends who are current and former police officers. So we value their advice. When they heard the story of Mr. Viar’s ticket incident, one thing we kept hearing over and over was: “the police can’t do that.”
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Treasurer Paul Viar’s comments
Tuesday, October 18th Board of Trustees meeting
I begin by trying to clear up some questions concerning a parking ticket that I receive a few weeks ago. This ticket was issued to me, on the word of a retired police officer, who had no evidence of facts. This officer has attended two Board meetings to express his displeasure with me for explaining to Shelby taxpayers the threat posed to our township by the current unsustainable police union pensions. So we must assume that he had an axe to grind.
I was getting questions about the ticket, so I wrote a letter to the Source explaining the details of this parking ticket incident. I explained how I thought this was a highly unusual circumstance in the way the ticket was issued.
The ticket was not given to me in the traditional manner. It was written by an officer who did not see the incident, but who took the word of a retired officer and sent a ticket to me certified mail, paid for by taxpayers. I accepted this citation, contacted my attorney, and a pre-trial court hearing was held last Thursday. At no time in these proceedings did I mention the name of Lisa Manzella. My concern has been focused on the practice of issuing retroactive tickets.
However, Mrs. Manzella decided to write a scathing letter about me as a follow up to my letter. She said, in this letter ,that I had not manned up. As I said, I took this ticket to my attorney and we set up a court date.
Obviously Mrs. Manzella would like to compare my ticket to her contact with police sometime ago, so let’s do that. Mrs. Manzella ends her letter by saying residents want the facts on all issues. Here are some of the facts concerning Mrs. Manzella’s contact with the Shelby Township police.
Her response to the press after the one-car accident was “accidents happen.”
In my view, accidents of this nature, where you cross a center line of a two-lane road, roll your SUV, end up with the nose of your vehicle in a ditch at 1:00 a.m. on a Sunday morning deserves more than a flippant “accidents happen” comment.
I would like to read from a deposition taken from an officer the night of the accident:
QUESTION: You concluded she wasn’t wearing a seat belt, Mrs. Manzella?
OFFICER: That’s correct.
QUESTION: You didn’t issue a citation for not wearing a seat belt, did you?
OFFICER: No, I did not.
QUESTION: Why not?
OFFICER: I don’t know why.
Any remarks about Mrs. Manzella that I have made, either positive or negative, have been made at these meetings for residents to hear and evaluate for themselves. My comments have been remarks about her record, her actions, and her votes on issues impacting taxpayers. By contrast, over the past several months, Mrs. Manzella has chosen to use social media sites, like Facebook, to malign me and call me names that are not used in mixed company.
In trying to explain her rationale for a retroactive ticket-writing scheme, Manzella compares Shelby Township to a desert community that uses airplanes to track speeders. She says traffic cameras at intersections are being used to track speeders. She even says that some communities pay people to go around taking photos of cars to issue tickets. Is this her plan for our township?
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We find it unbelievable that Lisa Manzella wants to engage in a public debate about tickets. As mentioned by Treasurer Viar at the October 18, 2011 Board meeting, Manzella did not receive a ticket for her one-car accident in 2005? She could have, but did not. Manzella confirmed that she did not receive a ticket in the October 13, 2005 story in the Macomb Daily (see graphic at right).
Mr. Viar pointed out that a police office who was on the scene of the accident that night, was asked (under oath) why Manzella did not receive a seat belt ticket. His response: “I don’t know why.”
Think about it. If you are pulled over and are not wearing a seat belt, you will probably get a ticket. If a politician, like Lisa Manzella, can get out of receiving a ticket, why can’t ordinary taxpayers?
Just like Manzella, we too have close friends who are current and former police officers. So we value their advice. When they heard the story of Mr. Viar’s ticket incident, one thing we kept hearing over and over was: “the police can’t do that.”
We have been advised that Michigan requires that in order for a handicapped parking ticket to be legally written, a responding officer MUST witness the infraction. In this case, the police officer who issued the ticket did not see it himself, but instead took the word of a retired officer. The ticket was sent certified mail, paid for by taxpayers. How often does this take place in Shelby Township?
Some of the other points Manzella raises in her letter to try and justify this retroactive ticket were laughable and, quite frankly, irrelevant:
• Intersection cameras to catch red light runners? Sure, some communities use them, even though the continued maintenance required on these cameras has become a severe drain on dwindling municipal resources. Plus, many of these cameras have come under fire for being unreliable - perhaps due to lax maintenance. What do red lights have to do with a parking ticket discussion anyway?
• Airplanes to monitor speeding motorists? Yes, this may be used in “desert communities” but how does this apply to Shelby Township? Our township is not a desert community, and our police department can hardly afford to purchase an airplane for traffic patrols. So what’s the point?
• Paying people to take photos for tickets? This is the most bizarre idea Manzella raises. Do we really need a private shutterbug force (of seniors?) walking around taking photos so that retroactive tickets can be written and sent to people? Is this prudent or wise?
This latest Manzellian attack upon Treasurer Viar indicates just how out of touch with reality Lisa Manzella has become. Her nasty political attacks have become a tiresome display of desperation. Manzella is so fed up with public service (as evidenced by her numerous Internet rants) that the only tool left in her toolbox these days is attacking other people. Even if she knows nothing about the topic at hand, she complains, gripes, and distorts the facts to meet her own views. This is unhealthy — both for Manzella and for our township.
Given all this, and her continued weird and unexplained actions, we should all do Mrs. Manzella a favor and kick her out of office in 2012. Whether she runs for Treasurer (as she is now telling people) or runs for another term as Trustee, her negative attitude is doing more harm that good, and we should tell Manzella (very clearly by our votes) that it would be best if she retired. This way, she can go back to commenting on Facebook full-time and leave the responsibilities of public service to those elected officials who take the concerns of township taxpayers seriously.
Until next time...
• Intersection cameras to catch red light runners? Sure, some communities use them, even though the continued maintenance required on these cameras has become a severe drain on dwindling municipal resources. Plus, many of these cameras have come under fire for being unreliable - perhaps due to lax maintenance. What do red lights have to do with a parking ticket discussion anyway?
• Airplanes to monitor speeding motorists? Yes, this may be used in “desert communities” but how does this apply to Shelby Township? Our township is not a desert community, and our police department can hardly afford to purchase an airplane for traffic patrols. So what’s the point?
• Paying people to take photos for tickets? This is the most bizarre idea Manzella raises. Do we really need a private shutterbug force (of seniors?) walking around taking photos so that retroactive tickets can be written and sent to people? Is this prudent or wise?
This latest Manzellian attack upon Treasurer Viar indicates just how out of touch with reality Lisa Manzella has become. Her nasty political attacks have become a tiresome display of desperation. Manzella is so fed up with public service (as evidenced by her numerous Internet rants) that the only tool left in her toolbox these days is attacking other people. Even if she knows nothing about the topic at hand, she complains, gripes, and distorts the facts to meet her own views. This is unhealthy — both for Manzella and for our township.
Given all this, and her continued weird and unexplained actions, we should all do Mrs. Manzella a favor and kick her out of office in 2012. Whether she runs for Treasurer (as she is now telling people) or runs for another term as Trustee, her negative attitude is doing more harm that good, and we should tell Manzella (very clearly by our votes) that it would be best if she retired. This way, she can go back to commenting on Facebook full-time and leave the responsibilities of public service to those elected officials who take the concerns of township taxpayers seriously.
Until next time...
Lisa only sees a subject from her own point of view, she lacks empathy for the taxpayers she screws over on her way to making her point.
ReplyDeleteI think like most residents these days, I have grown tired and bored with Lisa Manzella. I can't believe she think we would elect her as Treasurer. My god, what is she smoking! Just imaging how bad our township would be right now if her $50 million campus was approved. What a financial disaster that would be. She is DEFINITELY not the person I would want in charge of my tax money!
ReplyDeleteShame on the police officer who wrote the ticket to Mr. Viar!!! Since when do retired cops go around the twp to report/take pictures of residents??? WHY did the officer on duty listen to the retired baffoon/bully?? This is CRAZY!!! Lisa and her cop friends are looking worse and worse as time goes by, what a shame. Mr. Viar has the right to park in handicapped spot, leave it alone already!!! The fact that the ticket was sent days later on the taxpayers dime makes this even more crazy!! Getting a little desperate there Lisa! We don't need you Lisa, just like we didn't need Mr. Maccarone or that STUPID $50 million campus, your the next to go Lisa! Where your seatbelt or I will call the police on you, I am ready with my camera!!! We can all play your way!
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I liKe the who manzelliam Madness analogy. This helps explain everything she has done. Now she wants to be treasurer. God help the taxpayers of shelby if she gets this job. But then, since the people are smarter than Lisa thinks, her chances of winning are slim to none.
ReplyDeleteLISA MANNZELLA IS A DRUNKEN LIAR!SHE ADMITS TO TAKING PRESCRIPTION MEDS AND DRINKING ALCOHOL BEFORE HER CRASH.WHY WAS SHE NOT SENTENCED TO SOME KIND OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE CLASSES? SHE SWEARS THAT SHE DOESN'T DRINK ANYMORE BOT GO TO HER FACEBOOK PAGE AND SEE HER ON A RECENT VACATION SURROUNDED BY ALCOHOL. COUNT THE NUMBER OF DRINKS ON THE TABLE AND COMPARE IT TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE PHOTO. THERE ARE NO GLASSES OF H2O ON THE TABLE WHICH IS WHAT SHE CLAIMS TO DRINK. DO I DARE TO ASK WHO IS PAYING FOR ALL THESE EXOTIC TRIPS? I BET YOU DIDN'T DRIVE IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY AFTER PILL POPPING AND DRINKING. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE POLICE REPORT FOR THIS INCIDENT PUBLISHED SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO HIDE. SHELBY RESIDENTS ARE TRULY SICK OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO HAVE A SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT AND A CHIP ON YOUR SHOULDER(NOT AN AA SOBRIETY CHIP) BAD-MOUTHING AND BERATING BOTH BOARD MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS WHO DARE TO EXPOSE YOU AND YOUR PHONY CRONIES FOR THE CROOKS THAT YOU REALLY ARE!!!!!!! BY THE WAY, DID OLD NIKKY NIGHTINGALE TOW YOUR SUV WHEN YOU FLIPPED IT? DID YOU PAY TRIPLE THE TOWING FEE LIKE US ORDINARY CITIZENS? GIVEN ALL THE LIES YOU HAVE BEEN CAUGHT IN, ALL THE SLANDEROUS REMARKS YOU HAVE MADE, YOU HAVE SHOWN THAT YOU ARE NOT FIT TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF SHELBY. WE DON,T NEED A PILL-POPPING NO SEATBELT WEARING TOWN DRUNKARD HAVING A SAY IN TOWNSHIP MATTERS. THE SOONER YOU GO, THE BETTER!!!!!!
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